Saturday, July 19, 2008

Personal Update: 7/19/08

Hi all! It has been a while since my last Saturday (usually morning) personal update. Perhaps the most interesting thing about myself is that I am not that interesting, lol. I really only have one thing I wanted to mention in this blog. No doubt my reasons for mentioning it will be scrutinized but if I were silent on the matter I suspect even my silence would also be read into.

On Thursday of this week I resigned my membership from Faith Community Church. Without sharing all of the details of how exactly I came to take this action I think it would be good for me to clearly state why I did what I did. In the process of an email conversation with Robert Morey I was accused of sins which I had not committed. Morey said a lot of hurtful things, and even stooped so low as to accuse me of sending an email to other members of the church that I had never sent or heard of. I asked him to forward me this email and *surprise surprise* I have not heard from him in two days.

My stated reason for withdrawing my membership was that "I can not in good conscience submit myself to a pastor who insists that I have sinned but will submit no more proof than his own personal judgment." There has been a whole lot of drama at Faith Community Church and I am honestly glad to be done with it. A number of the people there will no doubt see this as confirmation of their conspiracy theory that I was a secret spy for Clark and Joel (two former members of FCC). But then again, to guys like Mario Herrera, everything I did confirmed this. I believe that a church should foster a loving and caring environment in which true accountability exists. I will now begin to search for a new church that provides such and atmosphere.

If anyone has questions for me please feel free to shoot me an email at glennhendrickson@gmail.com.

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a quick PS. The context for my stated reason for leaving FCC was an accusation that I had sinned via email. The proof which I was entirely willing to hear would have been a simple matter of cutting and pasting my own words and explaining why the met the criteria for the 8 sins Morey accused me of. In my opinion this was a fair request. Morey replied that I had correctly identified the 8 sins which he believes I committed and said "As your pastor, I have the biblical authority to make this judgment call."

So basically the conversation went like this:
Morey: You sinned against me in your emails
-here are bible verses, here are your sins
Glenn: I do not believe I have sinned, since you do please show me exactly where and explain why. If I repent it must be sincere and it can not be sincere unless I am convinced I have truly sinned.
Morey: Just trust me on this, you sinned.
I take charges of sin seriously. If you believed I have sinned and have the courage to point it out to me then I will appreciate you for it and attempt to work on that area in my life. But when a pastor just wants to accuse accuse accuse and say that all you need is his personal judgment, that crosses the line.

26 comments:

Gadfly J said...

There is truly Life after Morey my brother! God Bless!

Gustavo Arellano said...

I posted about this today. Feel free to disseminate!

lieutenantcolumbo said...

This must me spiritually draining for you to see a mentor treat you this way Glenn. Our hearts go out to you. Have you looked at the evidence for Morey's documented abuses in the past? Specifically the evidence that I have uploaded on to the internet regarding the 1990s Research And Education Foundation (REF) scandal. As well as the blog testimonials of Morey's recent church splits. If you have, what are your thoughts? I just had a blog article published on gadfly j's blog. Who has had much to say on the issue himself.
http://saintaugustinian.blogspot.com/

The video and audio evidence is found on my website here.
http://www.putfile.com/lieutenantcolumbo

The pdf documentation is found here.
http://www.fileqube.com/shfolder/10211vNiXWr#d:10211

Joel Hughes blog here.
http://theocentricliving.blogspot.com/

Joel recently reported that Morey is threatening to sue him. Here are Larry Wessels comments to Joel via email on that.

"Dear Brother Joel,

Greetings in Christ. Keep calm and collected with strength from your love & faith in the Lord God Almighty. This life has many seemingly overwhelming tribulations & troubles but staying close to Jesus is the key to overcoming them all; I for one can certainly testify to that.

You should obviously know by now what type of individual you are dealing with in Morey and if not, please go back and review the posted audios on http://www.putfile.com/lieutenantcolumbo/media or the pdf reports about Morey on http://www.fileqube.com/shfolder/10211vNiXWr or all the internet links at http://moreylinks.blogspot.com/ or all the videos posted on Youtube (search truthseekerbobmorey) or the long version Morey expose videos on Google Video or Yahoo Video (search Robert Morey).

As documented in the above references, you are dealing with an individual who is not restricted to dealing with issues in the typical Biblical Christian way (meaning fair and truthful exchange of information with a sincere and honest intent) but rather with someone who will use every device that a saint or a devil would use. In other words, Morey is not restricted to handling situations in a strictly Christian manner, but rather he will use any and every gimmick, threat, slander, fraud, deceit, con, etc. imaginable to attain his desired goal if he deems it necessary. If he needs to lie he will lie or if the truth works out better for him in some instances he will tell the truth, or as other circumstances prevail he may feel that a half-truth may better serve his purposes. This is the way Morey has always operated yea these many years (which is one reason why he has been involved in so many church splits over those same years, going back to the 1980s).

Keep in mind that you are dealing with a person who sensationalizes the claims he makes about himself being this great Bible "scholar" as he sensationalizes the "value" of his "scholarly" books. He does this because in the end the bottom line for him is that he needs somebody to actually believe his "sensationalized" claims so they will support his "ministry" with cash. Cash, and plenty of it, is what energizes Morey's efforts in all he does when it comes to Christian ministry (find out more on this at the lieutenantcolumbo site from Morey himself on the audio file entitled "Morey Condemns Himself.").

The late Police investigator Hank Kitchen (see lieutenantcolumbo) said it best about Morey when he described Morey as being like a plumber who picks up his box of tools each day to go out and fix plumbing, to the plumber it's just a job to make money. At the end of the day the plumber does whatever he pleases. Hank said Morey uses Christianity like a plumber's tool box to go out and make money, it's just a job. One wonders where the love of Christ is in such a ministry as this.

As for myself I have said it since I discovered the "real" Robert Morey in 1994 and have stated it again and again over the last 14 years in print, video and now the internet (although Morey has threatened to sue me numerous times, he still has not done so, what is taking him so long?) that Christians should be aware that Morey is a "Proverbs 6" man. Proverbs 6 declares the six "yea seven" things "doth the Lord hate" and I can testify that Morey does all seven! Look up these verses in your Bible and prove me wrong. I say that Morey does what he does against Christians not out of love for Christ but so he can protect his own "filthy lucre" (1 Timothy 3:3,8) attained through his "tool box" ministry.

Anyway, brother Joel, be strong and steadfast in Christ our Saviour (Colossians 2: 2-15).

Because of the cross,

Larry Wessels
1 Peter 3:15"

More evidence is forthcoming.

Anonymous said...

Glenn--you have no idea how many people have been praying that the Lord would have Morey expose his true heart to you and the other young people at FCC who are caught in his web. We have been reading your blog and could see your heart was right about the things of God. Don't worry about Mario and Steve...they will have much to deal with when their time comes. (By the way, we are praying for Mario, Jennyn, Steve, and Dulce as well!)

You were absolutely right in resigning from this church. As an ex-FCC member myself, I hope that you don't have any doubts about this situation, wondering if
you were the one who was wrong. Those that wonder if it was their own fault take a lot longer to heal from pastoral abuse. That's right, it is absolutely ABUSE the way Morey lies, belittles, manipulates, and bullies the children of God. He and Anne then create fear in those that are left so that they don't even try to find out the truth! It seems that FCC is getting closer to becoming a lock-down cult of some kind.

I pray you'll listen to others who have walked the same walk, ask the Lord to show you who Bob and Anne Morey REALLY are, seek forgiveness for anything the Lord shows you that you may have done while supporting this wicked man (if anything), and then get on with serving our true Lord, Jesus Christ. Your wisdom and ministry to others is greatly needed.

Just know that this experience is the Lord wonderfully sanctifying and maturing you to become like Christ. As we've talked to other godly men and women, we've found that almost everyone has gone through a situation like this where the pastor abused his authority. It's apparently more common than we think! Sad... Yet, there are wonderful, godly Pastors out there that are such a breath of fresh air. I pray God leads you to a good reformed church.

I remember believing that I could not receive good teaching like Morey's at any other church...what I realize now is that I MISSED OUT on hundreds of wonderful sermons and teachings and Bible studies that are out there by locking myself in Morey's dark closet!

Two others that are on my heart, especially, are Meaghan and Morgan. I hope you have contact with them and can encourage them to seek the truth about Morey.

God bless you, my brother!

Stupid Sheep said...

Anonymous-why are my roommates (Morgan and Meaghan) on your heart? They are getting good fellowship here and each have their niche. For Glenn, it seems different, because for a while it seemed like he didn't fit in any longer and was ready to church where he belongs.

Glenn- we'll miss you. I hope you retain all your friendships and respect for Dr. Bob's scholarly side, if nothing else. I saw this coming, as you sort of faded yourself out. I hope that you find a solid church where you find yourself a ministry and a wife ;)

See you in September, if not sooner (i'll be upset if you don't make it to my wedding, mister!).

Stupid Sheep said...

Oh, when i said i saw "this" coming, i mean the part of you leaving, but not why. Where do you think you're going to go? You're a big fan of Gene Cook, going to go there? Probably a good idea, though, to not go to a church of someone you're a fan of. Probably best to go to a local church pastored by a noname. It all depends on your style though. It's all good as long as you put the Word above all else (just don't forget the "else").

Joshua said...

"For Glenn, it seems different, because for a while it seemed like he didn't fit in any longer and was ready to church where he belongs...I saw this coming, as you sort of faded yourself out."

Glenn didn't give any indication that these observations of yours had anything to do with him leaving. He never brought them up once. Did Glenn tell you personally that those were the reasons he left? He said on here it was due to Bob's actions. By saying that you saw this coming, that he no longer had "fit in" or "belonged", and that he had "faded himself out" you give the impression that these were the reasons Glenn left. You hint at the notion that this was a progressive issue with Glenn (something that can be observed over time) and not an abrupt, slanderous/dishonest move on Bob's part. You hint at the notion that this was an internal problem on Glenn's part and not an unforseen attack from the outside. Why is that, Becky?

Anonymous said...

Glenn,
What Morey did was un-biblical, no doubt. Two of the recent elders that were appointed by him resigned their position and membership to FCC last week yet nothing was said from the pulpit on Sunday. What is he hiding?

Stupid Sheep said...

Joshua - No Glenn did not tell me that. If it was something he brought up, i wouldn't have said because it would just be redundant. It's only you that echoes people. Why are you misunderstanding what i said? Good question, you'll have to look within yourself to understand that. I was not saying that is why he left. Although they could be related, because it was progressive for Joel. I'm sorry you misunderstood my comment. I was not saying it's an internal problem on Glenn's part, not in the least. Glenn is my friend and i see him going places. I like to find the good in the bad. I don't see it a problem enough for everyone to leave. For Glenn, it was the right decision, but for my roommates or anyone else to follow suit, maybe not. There is more to a church to a pastor and it's about time that people realize that. Glenn's choice is understandable and i am not saying it was wrong at all. He's gone here a while and i think i know him well enough to know he wouldn't make a rash decision. Also, i'm still trying to figure out if i know you. How long did you go to college group and do you remember me? The girls are few so you would if we met.

Glenn - you understand what i am saying, right? Please let me know if anyone of it sounded bad. I will correct any of my comments if necessary. I'm not saying anything bad about you. I don't know what to make of everything but Bob Morey is not FCC. You have your reason for leaving, but i'm still trying to understand why some of those who left are trying to make those left leave as well. I hope you don't become an attacker too.

Anonymous - Who left? This is the not the first i've heard of more people quietly leaving, but i didn't hear of elders? I honestly want to know, and am not accusing you of false information or anything.

Stupid Sheep said...
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Anonymous said...

Stupid Sheep,
Henry and Drew left.

Stupid Sheep said...

Anonymous - Please answer this if you will. As a discplaimer, i want to state that by asking, i'm not accusing you of lying or anything. I can't just believe everything i hear, especially on the internet, where under anonymity people saying anything and everything. It seems like your anonymity is due to the fact that you still attend. How do you know this if it was not announced?

Anonymous said...

I know the parties involved. To clarify, you can just call either one of them. I am sure they will validate my statement.

Stupid Sheep said...

I will call. I just wanted some more info first so i don't look like an idiot or gossiper or whatnot. Thank you.

Joshua said...

Becky,

- “No Glenn did not tell me that. If it was something he brought up, i wouldn't have said because it would just be redundant.”

My point in questioning whether Glenn told you those things is because I wouldn’t fault you for assuming that they had to do with him leaving if he said they did. But he didn’t tell you and it was all an internal interpretation of your own observations (though, now I understand you‘re saying you didn‘t mean to say they were *why* he left).

- “It's only you that echoes people.”

Please explain.

- “Why are you misunderstanding what i said? Good question, you'll have to look within yourself to understand that.”

What are you getting at with this statement? I often seem to “misunderstand” what you say. Why do you assume the fault is with me? Maybe its because you haven’t been clear enough in your writing - isn’t that possible? Anyone who reads that post of yours will come to the same conclusion that I did. It sounded like you were saying your observances of Glenn not fitting in or belonging, him fading out, etc. were the reasons you could see his departure coming. Both of these issues were linked in your post. What I don’t understand is, how could you see it coming if not from these issues? Glenn gave the impression that even he didn’t see it coming so that is why I’d like to know how you did.

- “Although they could be related, because it was progressive for Joel.”

It wasn’t progressive for Joel in the way you alluded to. It had nothing to do with him not fitting in, him fading out, etc. It had everything to do with Joel not approving of Bob’s lifestyle. That is only a progressive move toward departure for external reasons. You were speaking about internal changes on Glenn’s part (though, I *now* understand you were not saying those were the reasons you could see Glenn’s leave coming - I’ll wait to hear how that was so).

- “I'm sorry you misunderstood my comment. I was not saying it's an internal problem on Glenn's part, not in the least. Glenn is my friend and i see him going places. I like to find the good in the bad. I don't see it a problem enough for everyone to leave. For Glenn, it was the right decision, but for my roommates or anyone else to follow suit, maybe not. There is more to a church to a pastor and it's about time that people realize that. Glenn's choice is understandable and i am not saying it was wrong at all. He's gone here a while and i think i know him well enough to know he wouldn't make a rash decision. Also, i'm still trying to figure out if i know you. How long did you go to college group and do you remember me? The girls are few so you would if we met.”

I don’t remember how long I was at the college group. I attended FCC for about two years, though. And no, I don’t remember ever meeting you. I think I would’ve remembered it because you have the same name as my aunt. I remember seeing Glenn almost every time I was there so you could’ve been there and we just never spoke.

Joshua said...

anonymous -

Did they tell you why they left?

Glenn Hendrickson said...

Ok, lets see if I can reply to all of these comments...

Gadfly J: Thanks for the encouraging word, I appreciate it much.

Gustavo Arellano: Thanks for the blog on my account. I feel like i'm in the news, lol

Lieutenant Columbo: This truly has been a draining experience, But God is good and I am trusting that He will lead me to a church with a good pastor (hopefully multiple pastors) and good fellowship. I'll check out the links you left as soon as I have some free time...

Anonymous #1: You mentioned something in there about pastoral abuse, that is exactly what happened this last week. as you said, "it is absolutely ABUSE the way Morey lies, belittles, manipulates, and bullies the children of God." I appreciate your encouraging words. I really mean that. God bless you.

Stupid Sheep: with regard to me "fading out"... it is true that I was becoming more distant but you (as well as anyone else who is curious) should know that that and my decision to resign my membership are two different issues. Because of my work schedule I was no longer able to attend any weeknight meetings, so you didn't seem me any more at those... also the harassment from various men in the church prompted me to minimize contact with them.

Of course that isn't to say everything else was issue free... the other things that kind of bugged me were little and by themselves shouldn't constitute a good enough reason to resign membership from a church. However, a pastor who belittles you via email and CC's it to other members in the church and then wants you to repent for offending him... and makes up fake emails as evidence against you... AND threatens to remove his recommendation for you to attend seminary... well... that's another story (and you should know my going to Golden Gate may likely have been delayed because of his actions)... but I digress

I have no problem with your comment(s), they are always welcome on this blog. I will definately be at your wedding... just don't expect me to be too comfortable if Morey is performing it... (is he?)

I do not know where I will go to church yet, I'm in the process of looking... I would LOVE to go to Gene Cook's church except for it is just too far away :(

Joshua: You are right about the reasons for me leaving, it was because of Morey's un-biblical behavior. OF course, he was rude and made up fake emails to use as proof that I was guilty of gossip and trying to sow discord at FCC, but by that point I had already decided that enough is enough.

Anonymous #2: Thanks for your comment, Dr. bob was unbiblical in his actions toward myself, I am glad you recognize this fact. I just spoke with one of the former elders who left and he confirmed this... Both Drew and Henry resigned as elders and FCC members.

One is hard pressed to see Morey's omission as an indication of anything other than the fact that something is being hidden. When I attended there were regular announcements about individuals who were applying for membership. When two elders resign it should warrant an announcement of some kind.

It's not like the people will forget that there were 4 elders and now there are only two.

Stupid Sheep: I don't know what you mean by hoping that I don't become an attacker... I mean there are things that a person can't just be silent about. I want people like you and Nate and others at the church to know that I was mistreated and so far it has been six days since I was accused of sending an email to Jon Powel and Morey has yet to forward it to me. I mean, you are free to go to church were ever you want to, I just hope and pray that what happened to me does not happen to you, if my care is interpreted as an attack then I fear I have been misunderstood. But I konw you, Becky, you are not quick when making big decisions and you will hear out the evidence if you are able to. I feel like I'm rambling, lol.

Anonymous #3: Yes, Henry and Drew left.



The rest of the comments so far are really not directed to me.

I'd once again like to thank all of the bloggers and individuals who have contacted me to express sorrow that I had to go through this painful experience to see Morey's true colors. Out of habit I balk at even typing that but it's the truth, I have the emails to prove it...

Stupid Sheep said...

Joshua

- I wouldn't be assuming anything if he had told me. Assuming has to do with when you gather answers yourself. If he told me, i'd merely be repeating him. Yes they were my own observations. It was supposed to be positive. Everyone should stive to find their fit and flourish there.

- A lot of what you say just seems to be repeating what Joel, Columbo, and others say. I don't see you inputing anything new often. That's why i am often quiet on things i read, because someone has already said what i'm thinking. If Glenn had said something to me, it's not up to me to say, just him. I only inputed my own words.

- I saw a change coming. I didn't know what but i felt he wouldn't be around long. It wasn't anything i would bet money, since it was just an intuition. Sometimes it's right (Clark), sometimes wrong (James). I didn't know this would happen but to the thing about Glenn not seeing it comeing...if he didn't see what i saw, then that's not surprising because a lot of times people don't notice the things about themselves or their close friends that a quiet observer does.

- I wasn't saying it was progressive for Joel in the way I said about Glenn. I know it was a progressive chain of related things. With Glenn, i'm not saying it's like that. Although i don't believe you can separate things. People have presuppositions. I'll admit that anything i do or say is possibly related to seemingly unrelated things (if that makes any sense!)

-Yeah i was there since the beginning, but was mostly missing for the 2nd half of 2005 because of school. I'm shy to talk to people that don't talk to me first.

Stupid Sheep said...

Glenn - Yeah, i wasn't saying they were the same issue. I figured as much from night stuff. I didn't know about harrassment from anyone, of course. I just noticed a difference while you were at church.

EXACTLY the little things aren't enough to leave a church. That's why it irks me people try to encourage others to leave. I mean, don't you agree it's hard to find a decent church. If people are happy and healthy where they are why change that?

Yeah i think you know what i mean. There are different ways people go about all of this about Dr. Bob. Some are vicious. I know it's been like that on both sides. You don't seem like the vicious type, just a loudmouth, which isn't a crime...ne?

Glenn Hendrickson said...

haha, if being a loudmouth were A crime I'd be serving a life sentence ;)

Anonymous said...

Becky,
Since you say you have been around the church for a long time, I have one question for you. Can you give me a long list of people who have left who still respect your pastor ? If not, dont you find it unusual ? I was there for a long time and only knew of three couples who left on good terms. Everyone else were gossiped about and slandered by your pastor and his wife.

Stupid Sheep said...

ex-fcccccmember:
-I have said and am going to keep saying that the pastor is not the church. Morey is only around twice a month. There is a lot more to our church than that. It does not effect the preaching or fellowship. Honestly, it has not been proven that he lied. I'm not saying he hasn't, but can't say he has. It just his words against theirs. I can't side with them just because there number is higher. Morey is my pastor, so i feel i should consider him innocent until proven guilty.

-If it's true about the finances, i'm not happy about it, but it's in the past anyway. It doesn't effect my spiritual health.

-About the elders, it seems two are gone and i will do my best to find out information. Trust me, i'm not a moreyite, i just not going to believe things people say about him just because they say it loudly.

-I've tried listening to the Lt. Columbo files, but the sound quality was just too poor. I'll give it another shot if they clean it up or provide transcripts to read along with. I know that takes time, but if they are serious, they'll commit.

-A church is the people. People who may or may not know about all these claims. There is fellowship and good doctrine. I have faith in this church still. I know we can grow with a little tlc. I'm not giving up yet.

-I am not blinded. I had reservations from my first Monday night. I first scoffed then was saddened by the number of moreyites. I saw when people were idolizing him. I think i have a pretty good eye for telling the difference. I promise i'm not one of them.

-I'm not exactly a kid...but i guess in a whole sea of adults of all ages i am. I'm even younger than Glenn. I'm trying my best to look at things fairly. I can't take a word as proof when another contradicts it.

-What do you mean by saying Morey tells us himself what he is up to?

-People actually do go around making strong statements loosely. I'm not saying that person is. I'm just saying yes, b/c of the depravity of man, it happens.

-I'm dismissing it because they are anonymous, but hard as it is to trust what one says, it's even harder when they can't even put their name to their statments.

-I know FCC isn't perfect or where it should be yet. I still believe it can get there. The people, at least, are "innocent" (in whatever way a sinner can be), if not the pastor too. Trust me, i don't defend Morey to the grave. Only Christ. I know Morey isn't perfect. He also could've handled things about the splits better. I simply have no good reason to believe the claims said against him. Without that, i see no good reason to leave my church.

Stupid Sheep said...

Anonymous - FYI, btw, I've only been attending FCC since June 2006. I started going to monday nights November 2004.

I do find it odd why the same thing happens with so many people. However, I can think of quite a few names that haven't been slandered, and more vague faces of people i never knew. All the names i've heard were names i knew. The list of those named from the pulpit is much smaller than the list of people who left. It's a false dichotomy to say either someone is slandered or they leave on good terms. Are you claiming to have been slandered?

I know it sounds weird to say i could list but won't, but you and others have chosen anonymity, so i have to grant it to these people as well. Some of whom may be the same.

Also, not just with Glenn because he's my friend, but i don't have hard feelings against anyone who left. If i was well acquainted with them before, i would've stayed such, even if it means agreeing to disagree. I am friends with people who have left over the years (none of which have been slandered, by the way).

MICHAEL ROBIRDS said...

It is interesting to read all of your comments. It is amazing how God opens the eyes of some, and others remain closed for a time. For those of you who do not know me, I was with Bob Morey from the beginning. I was around longer than anyone save Darrien B, and maybe Jaime. I was the deacon of men's discipleship group. I left when TOM ,James, and April were slandered, Gossiped, and lied about. I stood by and did nothing when Javier and Lisa were slandered. i stood by and did nothing when Clark was slandered and lied about, but when it was the last 3, I knew BM was in sin. i just want to say to you Becky, I stood by and did nothing, because I too thought the teaching and fellowhip were great. My wife Linda, and I overlooked MANY character flaws in BM because the aforementioned asspects were great. But do you not see the pattern here with BM. The last split 5 out of 7 deacons left the church. Now we see 2 " elders" have left the church. why is the pattern always with BM and a member of the congregation? in most healthy church's it is the shepherd who is mediating between people in the body. with BM it is always with him and a member?Why is that? I will say emphatically that I have looked at the evidence againt BM and it is all true. He is that bad! What type of shepherd seeks to destroy GOD'S people? Have we all been mistaken? The evidence against BM goes back to the 1980's. This is not a besetting sin, but this is a character trait in him. BM always said that his dad said " religion is a racket and that he should " get the money" get the money'. Well it is evident that BM took him seriously. let me state also, that this whole situation is sad indeed. By God's grace all that have left, we are doing well and most have found healthy church's. a group of us even meet mid week and have a Bible Study. I would encourage all to seriously look at the evidence and prayerfully consider the state of FCC.

Samuel Garcia said...

Wow Glenn, I consider this great news, and seeing as you have so many comments to read, I will keep this short. I strongly believe that if God is moving in any minimal way in that church it is completely despite Morey. Somehow, someway Dr. Bob lost his sanity. Sadly, his "scholarship" went down that way a while ago.

Anyway, mainly I wanted to give you advice that you didn't ask for. When I left FCC I made it a point to join a community of Christians whose fundamental drive was World Missions and Evangelism. I strongly believe that any church that ignores this has lost its purpose. If you find it useful at all, it may be actually more beneficial to forego the search for a trained pastor (translate "Dr.") and to be in an environment where an interdenominational spirit is fostered.

No more of this "only Reformed", isolationist, superior, theological exclusivism tendency that was so transparently evident at FCC. I'd rather learn to love and serve others from my pastor than mimic his behavior to question the salvation of every God-fearing Christian.

Lenny said...

Hey Mike Robirds, it's Lenny G. I think a lot of people will respect and appreciate what you had to say. It's not easy for someone in your position to publicly acknowledge that you weren't always seeing things for what they were at the time. We all make mistakes in our journey and sometimes can't figure out how we got into the situation we did, but by God's grace we often come away having learned something out it, growing in sanctification, realizing our dependence on God and that we don't know it all, but yet by God's grace we persevere. I hope everyone knows I don't hold any grudges against anyone because they weren't there for my defense. I knew for my situation that the whole time God was in control and that He would take care of things in His own way, but yet it was still painful for me and Javier's family. When Bob did the number on me and Javier, a few wanted me to mail my resignation letter to everyone on morey's DList, (which would have blown him out of the water) but i didn't because i felt God would deal with things in His own timing. Maybe it's better things worked out this way? I am just glad He is opening people's eyes as He desires in His timing. I also pray that the people who've been part of the exodus out of FCC the last few years and even recently will become productive servants, evangelizing and ministering to others, not getting overly bogged down by getting too caught up in the Morey bitterness and stife. It's easy to get angry and bitter about what's happened and let that take root, but if they can move on by God's grace and be a good servant according to their calling, that's a good testimony for others to see.

May God Bless you,
Lenny